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[07-25 04:09][Newbie]Icewolfz: i know when they created C# they attempted to create better position and resizing issues
[07-25 04:09][Newbie]Icewolfz: granted thats replaced again with wxml or what ever it was
[07-25 04:09][Newbie]Inome: Yes so now my client uses just command line, the only disadvantage is just that I can't read back the information in a normal text field, I have to switch cursor mode and go up to the other part of the window.
[07-25 04:10][Newbie]Icewolfz: could always embed a terminal in basic gui grame
[07-25 04:10][Newbie]Icewolfz: seen that used a lot
[07-25 04:10][Newbie]Icewolfz: i even tried it once to create a quick hacky client long ago
[07-25 04:11][Newbie]Icewolfz: granted there tons of libraries nowadays so now its mostly picking ones that save you time
[07-25 04:12][Newbie]Icewolfz: plus always new languages coming out to try and reinvent
[07-25 04:12][Newbie]Inome: Hmm yes... and somehow I'll have to send the input to the screenreader too to auto-announce events, this can be done with some libraries, there are some libraries, but they call some COM objects and functions on them which aren't documented.
[07-25 04:12][Newbie]Icewolfz: most screen readers hook into os level stuff i think
[07-25 04:13][Newbie]Icewolfz: but i dont have much experience so i am not 100% sure, most i have done is used it on web client to see how well it worked and my current web tech as desktop client
[07-25 04:13][Newbie]Icewolfz: web desktop app didnt work too well but web client was not to bad once i fixed issues
[07-25 04:13][Newbie]Inome: Yes they have os-level helper libraries too, but if I would like to monitor one part of the window and announce every change I have to do it manually. OS-level things are usually widget detection, or keyboard hooks or things like that.
[07-25 04:14][Newbie]Icewolfz: yeah or focus based
[07-25 04:14][Newbie]Inome: Ah yes.
[07-25 04:14][Newbie]Icewolfz: many librarys now on text to speech as well then what use to exist
[07-25 04:15][Newbie]Icewolfz: so one can cheat using those to a point too
[07-25 04:15][Newbie]Inome: Web interfaces are working quite well, because they have a lot of information... the most problematic UIs are on Windows QT and GTK.
[07-25 04:15][Newbie]Inome: Yes it's possible to call the TTS directly.
[07-25 04:15][Newbie]Icewolfz: yeah older systems and open source stuff tend to lag more
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