| [03-03 21:38] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: rolled back all th eobama rpa rules for cars |
| [03-03 21:39] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: removed a lot of safe guards for clean air and water now |
| [03-03 21:39] | [Chat] | Malice: Ocean shipping, airlines, heating and cooling, plastics, power gen.... oil isn't going anywhere anytime soon. |
| [03-03 21:39] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: granted i expect states like ny and ca to pass local laws to readd them |
| [03-03 21:39] | [Chat] | Roku: but the economics of solar are pretty simple. it takes 30 years to build a nuclear reactor and $20 billion. $20 billion in solar can be built in 3, and generate far more power (though at the cost of a lot of land). |
| [03-03 21:40] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: well airline have been experiemtning with solar, had a plane flyw 60 days with out fuel |
| [03-03 21:40] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: plastics are made from plants more now then crude |
| [03-03 21:40] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: power gen doent use oil thats mostly hydrpo, nuke, solas, wind, coail, or natrual gas |
| [03-03 21:40] | [Chat] | Malice: not in any useful capacity. I can fly a kite for weeks on wind power... doesn't help anything. |
| [03-03 21:41] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: no the yhad a 6 man play flay |
| [03-03 21:41] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: i think or it may have been a 2 or 4 main but it was a smal lcraft plane |
| [03-03 21:41] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: was in the air like 60 days with out ht need t orefuel |
| [03-03 21:41] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: boats i will give you there hasnt been much work on replacing diseal for boats |
| [03-03 21:41] | [Chat] | Roku: I figure airlines will switch to H + O fairly soon from fuel cells splitting water with solar power. Its more flammable, but hell at the low pressures they operate at, jet fuel (which like diesel can't be ignited with a cigarette at sea level) easily explodes at flight conditions. |
| [03-03 21:42] | [Chat] | Malice: doing no actual work, though. I'm not saying it's not possible some day, just that we are far more than 10-20 years out from oil still being the dominat force on our space rock. |
| [03-03 21:42] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: ti salready on tis down spiral |
| [03-03 21:42] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: but true it will probably be a few decades |
| [03-03 21:42] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: but its dieing already |
| [03-03 21:42] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: it sarleayd had its peek and will never get it back |
| [03-03 21:43] | [Chat] | Icewolfz: plus there will alwyas be niche marekts like classic cars |
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